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Welcome to the Thizzlehat Junction Center. This is your place to mention news and anything needing adminly attention. You can also use the shortcut TJC.

While you wait for attention, have a look at what needs to be done around here by clicking the shiny blue links below.

Real-time discussion about ED content and/or help from an ED Sysop can be found at #wiki and #ed on IRC. Check your fear, drama and faggotry at the door.

About ED

Fashioned in the spirit of Ambrose Bierce's The Devil's Dictionary, Encyclopedia Dramatica's purpose is to provide a central catalog for the e-public to view parody and satire of drama, memes, e-pals, and other interesting happenings on the Internets. Our goal is to provide comprehensive, reference-style parody, to poke fun at everyone and everything. You can read more about the origin of Encyclopedia Dramatica in our About section.


Before making any contributions, be sure you have read over all of our policies. We will not hesitate to revert any idiotic edits and call you out for your stupidity.

Ways to Help

User Groups

See the User Group Rights page showing the rights of the users of each group. The group you're in dictates what your privileges are on ED.


All are welcome, as long as you read and agree to the General disclaimer. The only real requirement is to create an emailconfirmed account to edit articles. ED doesn't support anonymous editing. (IP addresses)

  • Got a lulzworthy subject you feel needs to be written about? Submit it to the Needed/Proposed page and someone might pick it up. Make sure you check to see if there's already an article about the subject first.
  • Ask questions at the Thizzlehat Junction Center.

  • Write an article. This is the best thing you can do for ED.
  • Check the Bad New Articles portal to see if there's anything that ought to be expanded or cleaned up.
  • Check the list of wanted articles. This is automatically generated when two or more pages contain links to a page that doesn't yet exist.

Front page

  • Add images to articles, or upload better versions of [[wanted images]]. Make sure you give your image a detailed name instead of a bunch of symbols or numbers so search engines can actually find them and link to them easier.
  • Browse though unused images and files and find homes for them. Do not delete or put death notices on duplicate images, use the {{duplicate}} template instead.

  • Categorize articles. We have a list of existing categories and a list of uncategorized articles. To add an article to a category, click that page's edit link and at the bottom of the entry, type [[Category:'''(name of category)''']] and click "Save Page." Use the "Show Preview" button to make sure you typed a category that exists (red links mean you failed). Do not create new categories.
  • Rotate a Portal. Seriously, this would be highly appreciated. The goal is to have each one changed once every two weeks or so. Anyone can do this.

Request editor privileges

If you're interested in helping out further, request editor privs, assuming you've been around for a couple months or have otherwise proved yourself.

SysOp & Editor Tasks
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Editors are able to move and edit protected pages. They are expected to help maintain the Main Page. If you're a recently promoted editor and are unsure about something, ask for assistance. Don't be afraid of making mistakes.

  • Check to make sure all the XOTN are set for the Main Page
  • Review NewFiles for content that violates ED Policy. Editors can tag content with {{delete}}.


Administrators have all of the Editor tools, along with the ability to delete pages, edit the user interface, and ræp users. If you have any questions about anything on ED, talk to them. They're here to help you.

  • Also, all of the Editor tasks apply to you as well.

TJC Archives




Police.gif Don't archive this section, simply delete resolved entries.
  • Other staff pls elaborate on this, maybe keep it at the top of the TJC indefinitely. No matter how small the meme or internet event, we need a place to be new user's muse for writing articles. Please add to this list, and the next person who archives the TJC leave this post at the top please. --Mantequilla (talk) 00:51, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
Should we marge Encyclopedia Dramatica:Needed/Proposed with the TJC? Maybe we sort out suggestions that aren't crap. Weasel avatar2.png reply 08:34, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

  1. - Mark Millar: The Kick-Ass guy. added 23:46, 17 May 2015 (EDT) by JuniusThaddeus
  1. We need need a Mark Miller Mark Millar article in order to balance all this Gamersate stuff out, and the Metal Gear Solid article needs more information on Ground Zeroes and its treatment of Paz. --JuniusThaddeus 23:53, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
  •  ????? What did Mark Miller do? G Head.png oddguy G Head.png 03:29, 18 May 2015 (EDT)
    • Sorry, I just realized that his surname is "Millar", not "Miller". Oh, and he makes dumb products. --JuniusThaddeus 07:44, 18 May 2015 (EDT)
  • lol what a faggot... I guess no one was impressed with his "acting". G Head.png oddguy G Head.png 07:53, 18 May 2015 (EDT)
  1. - Shoplifting Blogs - Bitches on Tumblr are posting their Shoplifting hauls Mantequilla (talk) 21:58, 25 May 2015 (EDT)
  2. leftypol - It's the 8chan board that's basically /pol/ for communists G Head.png oddguy G Head.png 12:03, 29 May 2015 (EDT)
  3. RevLeft- Internet's biggest communist circlejerk.Why did noone ever write an article on it?--Boudica 19:02, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
  4. Serenity (Comic) - /co/ marathons/storytimes this classic christian comic every Christmas and Easter. The creator of the book has responded to /co/ as well.--Desu walk.gifTalk to me|Contribs 10:05, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
  5. Zoey Tur - Transsexual Twitter-favicon.png Zoeytur threatened so send Twitter-favicon.png benshapiro home in an ambulance on live television (Dr Drew) and later threatened to curb stomp him on twitter for stating his beliefs that Bruce Jenner is a man no matter what he says. Google will give you a lot of information. They even had an outlash at the official ED twitter account if you search both names together. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 00:50, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
  6. Black Lives MatterCheckmark 2.gif - Surprised this doesn't exist despite having a people article on Shaun King.
I'll start on Viper the Rapper, Serenity aand WIREDCheckmark 2.gif later tonight.--Desu walk.gifTalk to me|Contribs 18:36, 10 July 2015 (EDT)
  1. Microaggression - i found out that use of the word "authoress" is considered a microagression, which idek how to spell.
  2. Template:Newspeak - a template for easy reference to the glossary of Newspeak
-hipcrime Emote Pop tart cat.gif 01:22, 23 March 2016 (EDT)

wtf is this shit?

Sam Hyde All I see on front page now is stale white nationalist memes, "chimpout" "cuck" Has Encyclopedia Dramatica finally become StormFront wiki? This makes me less interested in continuing to visit here.  — Preceding comment added by Asood (talkcontribs), who is too much of a fucking retard to sign their own posts. IT'S FOUR TILDES (~~~~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

Join the line of "I liked ED before it offended my particular points of view". LKCustomSig.jpg (talk) 21:58, 31 July 2016 (EDT)
Tell ya what, friend, if you change our zeitgeist, we'll change our front page. Is it a deal? —  VX  23:59, 2 August 2016 (EDT)
Asood, if you don't the direction we're going in, you can kindly fuck off. You won't be missed. AlGore 00:56, 3 August 2016 (EDT)
It's a user-generated website, how about writing something that interests you. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 05:42, 3 August 2016 (EDT)
Also, Same Hyde is a youtuber whom CNN called a mass shooter because of 4chan. Is that not worthy of a single paragraph article? Seems to me to be exactly what ED was made for. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 05:53, 3 August 2016 (EDT)
Also, write something totally contrary to what you don't like, and if it's funny, I'll make that the main article. - Zew0 14:41, 3 August 2016 (EDT)
We literally don't discriminate here. Write what you like and, if it's good, it'll go on the main page. - Zew0 14:43, 3 August 2016 (EDT)

Youtube Embed do not Work

Is anyone else having this problem. Youtube embed load as a small rectangular bar and do not play. It has happened on multiple computers for me. Uberfukken 00:06, 13 August 2016 (EDT)

I was the first to notice. It got tweeted out by our official account. YouTube changed their API which fucked up some stuff in general, we'll be moving to html5 soon which should fix it. LKCustomSig.jpg (talk) 01:00, 13 August 2016 (EDT)
Yup! We will be adding this in a little bit, which has HTML5 support. If anyone can find a better extension before it is added please list it. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 12:04, 14 August 2016 (EDT)
This won't affect the youtube template right in terms of having to re-edit thousands of embeds here? LKCustomSig.jpg (talk) 12:14, 14 August 2016 (EDT)
  • it seems to work for that shaman (Coleman), but i've seen a liveleak (i think) embed that had that short rectangle. -hipcrime Emote Pop tart cat.gif 12:41, 14 August 2016 (EDT)
I was wondering why Kittens' sounds werent working. AlGore 08:22, 19 August 2016 (EDT)

Rename Television portal

Well, the name hardly no longer applies. First of, while movies can be shown on TV, it is not what I think of when I heard "movie". Streaming has made old-school tv superfluous. So perhaps it could be renamed for something more relevant. And if the name could imply western releases only, so that animu releases could fuck off into the animu portal, that would be great. The only names I can come up with is akin to video media or media. And those just suck. Cobalt Cat.jpg CobaltCat 16:09, 13 August 2016 (EDT)

Seconded. My vote is for Media portal. Why wants to take on the arduous task of doing it without fucking everything up? --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 12:02, 14 August 2016 (EDT)
media, jew media or hollywood all would be good picks imo. thirding media because i am a conformist now. :) -hipcrime Emote Pop tart cat.gif 12:39, 14 August 2016 (EDT)
Electric Jew is the only real answer. —  VX  22:08, 16 August 2016 (EDT)
Voting for Media. AlGore 08:21, 19 August 2016 (EDT)


i've upgraded the youtube extension which supports html5 video. report any issues here and i'll have a look. worst case scenario i'll rollback the extension. Weasel avatar2.png reply 11:31, 22 August 2016 (EDT)

  • The new vidya resolution looks great. Krade Gavel Icon Small.png 21:14, 23 August 2016 (EDT)
Nice. --JuniusThaddeus 09:03, 25 August 2016 (EDT)


isn't working at the moment i'm looking into it Weasel avatar2.png reply 13:59, 22 August 2016 (EDT)

Previous Slide | Next Slide

ok this can be fixed so i'll do that later. if anything else is broke lmk plz. Weasel avatar2.png reply 14:24, 22 August 2016 (EDT)
Fixed. uber noticed that someone fucked up videoframe. Weasel avatar2.png reply 21:01, 23 August 2016 (EDT)


new accounts can edit pages without answering a captcha, it is still required to create an account. this will improve user retention. Weasel avatar2.png reply 12:00, 22 August 2016 (EDT)

What changed?

VX allegedly added a sitenotice simultaneously to a Chinese DDoS attack that prevented editing. Luckily the freedom fighters have liberated our site here. What upgrades came with that? Mike the Great (talk) 04:31, 10 September 2016 (EDT)

Communism, mostly. The rest is yet to come. —  VX  10:45, 10 September 2016 (EDT)

updates/transparency etc

Shit is sucking more than we expected it would. It is going to take longer than expected and we shouldn't have even started doing it in the first place lol. We're doing a backup right now and then we are going to work on fixing the image uploader and then work on finishing the upgrade. whether that means actually upgrading this install or importing all the images and pages into a brand new install of mediawiki we still don't know.--Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 02:59, 16 September 2016 (EDT)

Ur not the only one. Then yesterday the ssd and hdd for the raid needed to be changed which took like all fucking day. Hopefully we get the image uploader fixed soon, that is really fucking important. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 18:18, 18 September 2016 (EDT)
It's after midnight where he is tho so I don't see it being fixed today. I'm sorry, I know this sucks. I have a bunch of rare pepes to upload. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png
When will uploads be fixed? I have a fuckton of autism and nigger images that need uploading. — GirlOnInternet SquiglySmall.png 19:58, 20 September 2016 (EDT)
We have lasers to be fired when shits fixed. Good luck on the upgrades ~ Swasikasig.jpg (Al Gore) 16:05, 21 September 2016 (EDT)
Today hopefully. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png
Godspeed then, dude. ~ Swasikasig.jpg (Al Gore) 16:08, 21 September 2016 (EDT)
  • Looks like its fixed now. Krade Gavel Icon Small.png 22:10, 21 September 2016 (EDT)
Yes it is fixed. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png
Users are welcomed with great sincerity to resume polluting ED's drives in all haste. —  VX  22:21, 21 September 2016 (EDT)
  • Looks like it's still having random times when images don't upload. — GirlOnInternet SquiglySmall.png 22:56, 21 September 2016 (EDT)
I'm still unable to upload anything. ~ Swasikasig.jpg (Al Gore) 01:59, 22 September 2016 (EDT)
It seems like you have to spam the fuck out of the reload button before they'll go through sometimes. — GirlOnInternet SquiglySmall.png 02:30, 22 September 2016 (EDT)
  • The problem isn't completely fixed; uploading multiple images doesn't seem to work, and I occasionally get: "500 Internal Server Error nginx" after making several upload attempts. Krade Gavel Icon Small.png 20:42, 22 September 2016 (EDT)
  • Nevermind, I only had that problem with one .gif image I tried to upload... Krade Gavel Icon Small.png 19:00, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

now seeking editor applicants

are someone who writes good articles or someone who spams recent changes with a bunch of pointless autistic edits? do you know someone who does? let us know because we're looking for new editors. Weasel avatar2.png reply 23:29, 21 September 2016 (EDT)

User:Duranduran - I can fully vouch for this guy.
User:Midnight's Reich - Some random dude; EDITOR - IF he works more often

~ Swasikasig.jpg (Al Gore) 01:59, 22 September 2016 (EDT)

Checkmark 2.gif thanks! Weasel avatar2.png reply 10:34, 24 September 2016 (EDT)
User:Tuxlie - wants to get active again and continue uploading redlink images  — Preceding comment added by Tuxlie (talkcontribs), who is too much of a fucking retard to sign their own posts. IT'S FOUR TILDES (~~~~), NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
Checkmark 2.gif --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png

anyone know how to edit this

Anyone know how to make this page say "please type what you see in the box below" instead of "please type the two words you see in the box below"? --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 01:52, 22 September 2016 (EDT)

Done. — GirlOnInternet SquiglySmall.png 02:09, 22 September 2016 (EDT)
Thanks bruh --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png

we have a gnusocial install

That you could probably use to collaborate on the wiki or just stay in touch with ed ppl in a twitter like environment. We are just playing with it but https://dramati.ca is the url feel free to sign up. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 22:36, 22 September 2016 (EDT)

Be sure to use HTTPS. The software hates clear text. —  VX  14:15, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
  • Signed up... curious to see what it's about. Krade Gavel Icon Small.png 18:25, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
Making rash decisions, I suppose. It's what I'm about to do to the sitenotice. —  VX  20:29, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

Random links redirecting to other websites

Don't know if this is a new feature gone wrong or something, but every few internal links I click on the site open new tabs redirecting me to other websites such as this one. Actually as I write this it keeps trying to redirect me randomly when I click anywhere on the page. PoshBlastoise.gifTalk 14:12, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

A necessary evil that pays the bills. It shouldn't persist throughout a session, however. —  VX  14:18, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
It's definitely happening about every 3-5 clicks, and making the site pretty much unusable at the moment. PoshBlastoise.gifTalk 14:19, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
Every time I click a link or click the screen at all I'm getting redirects. -Swasikasig.jpg (Al Gore) 14:23, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
SORRY!!!!!! I was trying a new ad company but obviously they are way too intrusive and I have severed our business relationship. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png
You gotta pay the bills somehow, dude -Swasikasig.jpg (Al Gore) 14:32, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
Ya that was too much tho. There's gotta be a balance, somehow. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png
  • Jew Gold must be donated to ensure the facilitation of lulz. Krade Gavel Icon Small.png 18:08, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

Donation issue


Someone is having issues donating to ED. --JuniusThaddeus 20:19, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

Weird, I don't see any setting that would fix what their problem is. --Mantequilla (talk) Mantequilla.png 21:35, 24 September 2016 (EDT)


The following articles have left one or more admins gape jawed and/or trembling with rage.

Sysops are encouraged to vote, keep or delete. —  VX  06:04, 25 September 2016 (EDT)

They have actually brought a decent set of views. Inesthelostangel has almost 100 a day, whereas Pink has nearly 130 a day. So I vote keep, but be fixed. And I call not it. Cobalt Cat.jpg CobaltCat 06:22, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
Keep, clean the fuck up. not it. -Swasikasig.jpg (Al Gore) 06:54, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
Are we certain that those views don't count robots? More than 60 can be active at a time. —  VX  07:16, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
Keep the former after some cleanup maybe formatting etc. Do what you want with the latter. LKCustomSig.jpg (talk) 08:50, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
Both seem to have potential, but both look like they were written by 14-year-old autists. I went ahead and cleaned up the series templates and images on both of them to make both of them presentable, but they still need a lot of work - especially that first one. — GirlOnInternet SquiglySmall.png 12:16, 25 September 2016 (EDT)
I don't see how either of these articles warrant deletion. Uberfukken 09:56, 26 September 2016 (EDT)
They were listed because I have seen sysops bitching and moaning about deletion on their talk pages. —  VX  21:28, 28 September 2016 (EDT)

Updating: Editing Tips & Front Page

Lately there seems to be a crapflood of People Articles lately, mostly about sterotypical tumblrinas, furries, and deviantartists who have no real defining features other than being tumblrinas, furries, and/or deviantartists.

Under the "Bad New Articles" square on the front page, beneath the portal link on it's own line, there should be a link to ED's editing guidelines at at least the "When is it Crap" page. Over time the rules pages have gotten sort of lost in the mire and having some links to them right upfront where people will see would help let people know what flies and what doesn't here to help discourage making crap pages.

To further help people not make total crap the "Is it Crap?" page should be updated with better info. Yes, we have ED:101 but that page is long, detailed, and serves the purpose of giving more detail on how to write and is not a fast rundown of of what's crap here. The Guide to Article Building is even longer and more detailed, but also mostly on wiki style. The current page on what is crap here is very short and lacks all detail making it not very useful. The exhibits are there, but are on multiple different pages and are not explained at all so a greenhorn wouldn't know what's wrong with them at first glance. A fast explanation of why the exhibits are crap followed by the old list as a "misc" list would be a better page.

I'll put a draft of the proposed "Is it Crap" upgrade below here. What do you think of this proposal/draft?

Please place comments below this line instead of below the draft for readability. Thanks! --3tails 14:00, 26 September 2016 (EDT)

Draft: Is It Crap?

You are probably here because someone put {{crap}} on your article and you are wondering why. "When is it crap?" explains the most common reasons articles go missing or are tagged as crap.

This page is meant as an overview with less TL;DR than ED101 but more detail than just looking at our Bad Article Exhibits without commentary. For further details on the finer points of editing articles, see ED:101.

It's a Shitty Attack Article

We get it- you hate that twat. Whatever they did, you're pissed now and are making an ED article about them because That will totally show them who's boss. Pages like this are known as Shitty Attack Articles.

The golden rule is simple: Proof or GTFO.

Saying they do something is boring. Showing them doing something is hilarious!

To not be a Shitty Attack Article your page needs to have actual drama and screencaps of moments of them being an asshat. Just saying insults about them is not enough. If you feel like you have to reach for examples or the examples are weak, then it's most likely not good enough.

What does NOT count as drama by itself:

  • They fap to animals/furries. (So they're furry? Lame and boring.)
  • They don't like having their art stolen. (Too common and therefore boring)
  • They are Gay! (Nobody cares. This isn't amusing to anyone over age 12.)
  • They are a slut. (You now sound like a jealous virgin.)
  • They're underage. (We don't care about your classmates. GTFO.)
  • They're broke and pandering for money. (Who isn't broke these days?)
  • You hate them. (So what? Get a life.)

Examples of what counts as drama:

  • They have publicly aired a messy breakup and are whining to all the world in ten page rants. (Mine out the best parts for lulz.)
  • They wrote long guides on how to fuck your dog. (Screencap proof or this doesn't count.)
  • They have a criminal record. (Again, give proof or this doesn't count.)
  • They are writing shitty attack articles about that guy that pissed them off (Ironic, no?)

It's a Bad Article or reads like Uncyclopedia

We are not Uncyclopedia. We don't care how kooky or whimsical you think you are being, complete dribble with no basis on reality is likely to be rejected as a bad Article. That said, just shouting cuss words and saying nigger gay nigger jew over and over again isn't funny, either. There is a balance in humor here. If it doesn't fit the sense of humor seen on this site it probably won't fly.

How to learn the balance of humor we use here? Lurk Moar and look at Featued Articles until you have a feel for things. Not sure if you have it down yet? Lurk Moar. Lurking is always the right answer.

It Has No Internet Relevance

This means that unless there was a backlash or some drama involved that can be observed from the, anything from the real world does not matter.

For example, the TV show Everybody Loves Raymond, although disliked by some people, has not caused much in the way of observable drama. Because of this there shouldn't be a page on Everybody Loves Raymond. Charlie Sheen, however, is a huge drama whore who makes an ass of himself on the internet when he's not making an ass out of himself in the real world. Charlie Sheen can have his own page here because he is dramatic, interesting, and amusing all of which can be observable from the internet in sufficient amounts to prove it's not just a handful of people whining.

It's a Crappy Stub

If it's under 100 words it's likely to be removed. Period. We need something to read, here! If there's no images related on top of it being super short it's definitely going to be deleted or redirected. If you can't be bothered to actually write something of interest and pretty it up with at least one image, we can't be bothered to keep it here. Please see Exhibit B for an example.

It's Yet Another Furry/DeviantArt Article

Just because they're a furry, weeaboo, DeviantArtlet, or on Tumblr doesn't automatically make them lulzy. We have so many articles on people these days that they're all starting to look the same. If nothing stands out, then the page probably won't last. See Arman "red Axl" Dill as an example.

If you are writing things down that aren't unique or even really worthy of writing about because ALL OF THEM are like that, then you shouldn't make an article about that one because there's nothing lulzworthy going on. We need the very special snowflakes here, not the regular special snowflakes.

Common Furry Traits:

  • Gay/Bi/Slut
  • Faps to furries/cubs/animals
  • Dead broke
  • Lives with parents

Common Tumblr Traits:

  • Feminist/Alternate gender (Unless really, really loud about it. Ex: Biting Beaver)
  • Politically correct couch activist
  • Hipster/Nerd/Ect
  • "Girl", possibly with GOTIS

Common Deviantart/Furaffinity Traits:

  • Traces/steals art
  • Whines about art tracing/theft
  • Has White Knights and a fan circlejerk
  • Sucks at art
  • Most likely broke and living with parents

Other Reasons

  1. You are unfunny (and have the template on your userpage to prove it), therefore anything you write is automatically crap.
  2. The Good Joke:Word Count Ratio is 1:500 or worse.
  3. Your article is a stub and has no chance at becoming a good article without a complete rewrite.
  4. You wrote a People article about some retard in your fucking High School, or some other highly personalized shit nobody cares about.
  5. Your article is a vanity page or failed attempt to shamelessly self promote yourself on ED.
  6. You neglected to include the links showing how your article is connected to drama on the Internets.
  7. You forgot to include an approved category, in which case {{crap}} is the default category added by the Admins.
  8. AND last of all if your reason is just simply not on this list, I suggest you go fuck yourself until further notice.

Response to that clusterfuck above

What's the point of a big comprehensive list telling people what not to write. Uberfukken 15:10, 26 September 2016 (EDT)

Also don't we already have that? Cobalt Cat.jpg CobaltCat 15:32, 26 September 2016 (EDT)
I already addressed this earlier before posting the draft: we don't actually have a decent page on what is crap. What we have is either TL;DR on how to edit, a short list, or has zero explanation (ex: Exhibit pages).
Why do we need this? Because it's info that already is in the rules but not quickly and clearly stated where people can find it. Implied isn't enough sometimes. I did put thought into this and did look at the actual pages before posting. --3tails 16:37, 26 September 2016 (EDT)
I think you should just add the deviantart section of that into When is it crap? as that particular trend does need addressing if you take one glance at new pages or needed/proposed, otherwise it looks like it's redundant from the first few glances as per above. I am not against a revisal or checking of the help/policy pages and the like as part of some likely duly needed maintenance, however we should not rush in to create bits that are already there if they can just be re-written/added into other help/policy sections. LKCustomSig.jpg (talk) 15:41, 26 September 2016 (EDT)
Yeah, some updating and revising would benefit many of the listed editing help/rules pages, really. This wiki and the trends of things people keep posting here have shifted as time goes by. People seem to forget the fact that we're not a revenge board and not Hitler's Uncyclopedia. Occasional revisions to rules and help pages make sure everything is still useful and is healthy for the wiki.
Having clear links to the editing rules on the main page (probably below the bad new articles section) also is wise. Also if there's a better spot to stick the info from the draft, I'm all ears. This is a wiki and info should be able to shift to wherever it makes the most sense for it to be. --3tails 16:42, 26 September 2016 (EDT)

>claims all policy pages/help guides are tl;dr

>writes a tl;dr post on how the help guides should be "improved"

>ED already has everything that was suggested, but not in clusterfuck form

>fails to realize that nobody cares

Krade Gavel Icon Small.png 18:36, 26 September 2016 (EDT)

There are several types of people who write shitty articles, and none of them are the type who would actually take the time to read a tl;dr guide on how to write non-shitty articles. — GirlOnInternet SquiglySmall.png 18:45, 26 September 2016 (EDT)
I'd be shocked if anyone actually read the guidelines we already have. —  VX  21:29, 28 September 2016 (EDT)
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