QUOTE(Emperor @ Thu 16th September 2010, 4:10pm) *
I've just been perplexed by how participants in these websites seem to quickly adapt to the culture and export it everywhere they go. It's like Wikipedianism. I actually like Wikipedia in many ways, but there are places (like business and government), where it does not belong. Wikipedians seem to think you need to act the same and think the same and use the same tools no matter where you are.
That is a very important observation (which has been referred to quite a few times on this site), and the best I can come up with is that it is that Wikipedia has created this image of a brave new world, has come up with some rules which have been gifted from on high. They are not real world rules yet they are forcefully applied so as one is part of the movement, immersed, they become a creed for living. Doc was a little miffed that I'd picked on him for using the terminology of Wikipedia elsewhere, but it is exactly this blurring that is at issue.
There is no evidence that Wikipedia's rule-set actually works, yet people seem to assume because they have been playing the game for some time without being defeated that it does. As they believe Wikipedia's rules work, and they are the rules of the really modern world, Web 2.x, then they must, as they are newer rules, be better rules than the real world. The real world has lots of real life examples where you can show there are all sorts of problems being consistent with them so they must be bad rules, especially if they tend to tell you you shouldn't be doing what you want to do.
In the end though, the fundamental issue is that for all the intellectual academic pontificating, we live in a world where people are not on the verge of becoming the super-moral human race idolised on Star Trek TNG but we are all pretty dumb and so are happy to believe that complex problems are better dealt with by vacuous approaches like Objectivism or Libertarianism or anarchism where you opt out of even trying to deal with the tricky detail of life.
*You really need to be a Dad's Army fan to appreciate how to read that.